Religion..

Austro wrote:In my opinion, it's not that big a deal since you can have the good aspects of it without the actual religion, i.e. you can be a kind, caring etc person without being religious.... but hey, whatever works for people.

Maca wrote:

Revilo wrote:Hmm.. tough question. I'm a catholic myself, and Im pretty proud to be one, although there are some aspects of being a catholic that I really don't agree with, cos it seems outdated and doesnt really fit with society today.
Otherwise, it doesnt interfere with my life that much

Sure. Would you like to expand on that? I'm actually interested to hear your opinion of religion seeing as you are religious and i'm not. What do you feel is outdated and what positives do you feel are held within your own beliefs?

mzlaara wrote:I'm with iNinnoX.
I use them as guidelines, kinda.
But i would never take them too seriously
also I apologize if this offends anyone, it wasn't my intention

Thats the aim I feel, use religion as a way of turning yourself into a better person

Revilo wrote:
Sure thing bro. Probably the most outdated thing that I can think of right now is the gay marriage situation. Every Christian, regardless of what branch they are of except for a few random ones, are told that God loves you no matter what you do from an early age.
So with the gay marriage thing, the catholic church is against it because marriage is regarded as a union between a man and a woman only.
In today's society there are hundreds of theorists out there theorising all sorts of things. One particular area is feminism. (For those who don't know what that is, it's a bit heavy to explain and I forgot what the nutshell explanation from my teacher was).
Anyway, being a feminist ties in with the characteristics of being a woman. So, say there were two gay guys, one that was masculine, and the other feminist, it would essentially be the same as a man and woman, instead it is two men with different gender characteristics, and so would full fill the Church's view of marriage being between a man and a woman.

As for the positives, they are pretty much stated above. A sense of purposeness in life, a friendly community, morals and values, etc etc. All depends on personal views on life and such

Hmmm, yes the old argument on gay marriage. "are told that God loves you no matter what you do from an early age." That's an excellent point, its true thats what you are told when you grow up. Unfortunately some people wander off and fill people with their own beliefs. Yea a variety of positives do come from religion.

"So, say there were two gay guys, one that was masculine, and the other feminist, it would essentially be the same as a man and woman". Question. If two men were 100% masculine, how would you feel about them getting married? Im not having a dig or anything, Im just asking for your point of view

Maca wrote:

Austro wrote:In my opinion, it's not that big a deal since you can have the good aspects of it without the actual religion, i.e. you can be a kind, caring etc person without being religious.... but hey, whatever works for people.

That's exactly right, though people may feel comfortable with guide lines, you shouldnt have to read "Dont kill someone" to know its bad

Lungy wrote:Imo, religion provides people firstly with an answer to how everything in the world happened, hence how every religion has a different stiry.

Question, do you believe this is a good thing? Sure people find comfort in the fact that they "know" how things all started, but they can get so wound up in their own self belief they shut everything down that has scientific backup.

Maca wrote:

Hmmm, yes the old argument on gay marriage. "are told that God loves you no matter what you do from an early age." That's an excellent point, its true thats what you are told when you grow up. Unfortunately some people wander off and fill people with their own beliefs. Yea a variety of positives do come from religion.

"So, say there were two gay guys, one that was masculine, and the other feminist, it would essentially be the same as a man and woman". Question. If two men were 100% masculine, how would you feel about them getting married? Im not having a dig or anything, Im just asking for your point of view

Revilo wrote:
Nahh bro I know its cool. UUHhHhHhHhH.... I don't know. I was just trying to justify some gay marriages with theory. My actual personal theory is that I really don't mind the gay marriage thing. I think most concern goes to any children that are resulted, due to bullying and all that stuff, which is what Id be worried about if anything. Otherwise I don't have a problem with it.

iNinnoX wrote:
if they allow gay marriages and when they decided to adopt a child, would they be gay, too? Most likely, and because of this, they'll marry, adopt and continues. I'm kind of worried about humanity in the future, if you get me. Other than that, I'm not against gay marriage.

Revilo wrote:

Nahh bro I know its cool. UUHhHhHhHhH.... I don't know. I was just trying to justify some gay marriages with theory. My actual personal theory is that I really don't mind the gay marriage thing. I think most concern goes to any children that are resulted, due to bullying and all that stuff, which is what Id be worried about if anything. Otherwise I don't have a problem with it.

iNinnoX wrote:

if they allow gay marriages and when they decided to adopt a child, would they be gay, too? Most likely, and because of this, they'll marry, adopt and continues. I'm kind of worried about humanity in the future, if you get me. Other than that, I'm not against gay marriage.

iNinnoX wrote:As the Dhali Lama has said:

'Having a religion is good, but you do not need it to live'